JUT SUP 內宅

“THREE KINDS OF DISCIPLES”

A Zen master named Gettan lived in the latter part of the Tokugawa era. He used to say:

“There are three kinds of disciples: those who impart Zen to others, those who maintain the temples and shrines, and then there are the rice bags and the clothes-hangers.”

Gasan expressed the same idea. When he was studying under Tekisui, his teacher was very severe. Sometimes he even beat him. Other pupils would not stand this kind of teaching and quit. Gasan remained, saying:

“A poor disciple utilizes a teacher’s influence. A fair disciple admires a teacher’s kindness. A good disciple grows strong under a teacher’s discipline.”

 

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On Finding a Teacher
On one fine summer day, as I strolled aimlessly along a riverbank,
Beset with a thousand disquietudes,
I chanced upon an old woman fishing under the shady cool of creeping willows.
I wanted to ask her my thousand questions regarding the sun, moon and the creation of the universe and my purpose in life and oh so many more,
She placed her fingers on her lips: Fish are rising.
So I stood there and watched.
The freckled river shimmered with flashes of light like scales of an anaconda.
Clouds drift and tugged the blue horizon with their thick, silken strands;
Shadows of the willow grove deepened.
I felt my questions draining away.
Finally, as she slowly reeled in her line, I laughed as I saw that the line was without a hook.
How does one catch fish without a hook? I wondered.
As she turned to go, I know that tea is ready and I am invited.
Following behind her light, drifting footsteps, a gentle breeze combs through the willow branches,
I catch fragments of their whispering: A big one she caught.
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  1. JC
    August 25th, 2015 at 01:16 | #1

    Thanks to Doc for a great weekend. As always, learned a lot, refreshed a lot, and got to spend the hours with quality like-minded individuals on the same journey.
    Thanks to Bobby for the use of the training location (and range!). 🙂
    Hope some of you got something out of the lead-launching session. I’ll teach again next time I’m down.
    Day 1 lessons learned: move/attack/jam forward!!! Day 2 lessons learned: nuances! Haha
    Overall….. perpenparalleldicular
    hahahahaha

  2. Ed Holt
    August 24th, 2015 at 23:10 | #2

    Thanks, SiGung, for yet another excellent seminar! I greatly appreciate the Q&A time, the corrections in how I perform the Forms and drills, and the bits of information that can be missed if we’re not paying close attention (i.e. the “toys” that have been finding their way out of the attic). I feel very fortunate to be a part of the Shadowhand family. It’s been just over a year since receiving my “emancipation papers” from the plantation, and I feel like my training since then has taken quantum leaps forward, even though I know there is still so much more to learn! It’s nice to have a teacher who doesn’t teach with the emergency brake on (one who doesn’t brag to others about holding back or keeping students “one degree off”). Looking through my notebook and comparing it to the outline in the instructor’s manual and the Power, Speed, and Flexibility manual, I can say one thing for sure: you have taught me a LOT of Wing Chun! Thank you again for accepting me. I’m eternally grateful to have YOU as my Source.

    Bobby, Justin, Enero, et al.: It’s always a pleasure to train and fellowship with you. Your insights and pointers are invaluable to me, and I greatly appreciate you for the roles you all have played in my journey! Thank you!

    Steve, my brother, you are an inspiration, and I always look forward to seeing you! Looking forward to next time!

    Ed

  3. Captain J
    August 20th, 2015 at 13:16 | #3

    Just wanted to drop a couple good notes, and alas, another bad one.

    The bad first, I won’t be able to make it to the seminar this weekend, started a new job and funds are just not there 🙁
    But, Hopefully Sifu Dar will be paying us a visit soon.

    Now, on to the good.
    My neighbor has been training in JKD and wanted to know if any of my students would be interested in sparring or some freestyle…
    Mark stepped up first. After 3 “rounds” so to speak, my neighbor was way out of breath and quite tired, while Mark just had his usual smirk going, wasn’t winded at all. Although he did get hit and kicked maybe twice (out of dozens thrown), my neighbor didn’t know how to handle someone practicing the 2nd rule so well, and the first, and the 3rd.
    Being fair, (although I should have videotaped it) I would say Mark won out 70% (at least) of the time. Was a GREAT representation of Shadowhand.
    Secondly, Joseph has been away for the Army training. While there he had a boxer want to try him.
    Suffice it to say, the boxer lost… every time. And the boxer couldn’t figure out how Joseph was able to get in so close and score so many hits.
    Horse, FOOTWORK, calmness. He did precisely how he was taught and how he trained. Again, represented WELL.
    Shadowhand RULES!!!! 🙂

  4. SiFu Doc Savage
    July 26th, 2015 at 10:34 | #4

    Memphis Shadowhand Wing Chun

    July 23 at 1:59pm ·
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    Received an excellent lesson from my teacher and SiGong, SiFu Doc Savage, yesterday. I’ve only been under his tutelage for one year now, so I’m still learning my way around. I went to him expecting to get an hour of his time. We started at 8am and didn’t stop until noon. I’m very fortunate to have a teacher who holds nothing back and encourages his students to “learn the lessons of the drills” and to “study, search, and test.”
    reprinted from facebook

  5. JC
    July 22nd, 2015 at 19:14 | #5

    @todd
    I once asked Doc “hey Doc, can you recommend any good wing chun books?”
    Doc: “yeah, read your own notebook!” 🙂

  6. EZ E(nero)
    July 16th, 2015 at 00:17 | #6

    @todd
    Amen! Also, why are you calling me out? 😉

  7. todd
    July 14th, 2015 at 02:25 | #7

    Note to self: Your notes ain’t shit if you don’t read them… more than once. I was serious when I told myself that.
    Thanks again

  8. EZ E(nero)
    July 10th, 2015 at 02:51 | #8

    “Everything in Wing Chun is a balance.” Sifu Robert “Doc” Savage

  9. JC
    July 3rd, 2015 at 19:32 | #9

    In other news… another one wakes up… how many does that make?
    Happy “INDEPENDENCE” Day

  10. June 29th, 2015 at 01:59 | #10

    I just say thank you again to my Shadowhand family for all the wonderful support in my martial journey!

    I would also like to say thank you to my SiBak in Shadowhand Wing Chun, SiFu Dar Savage for his recent visit to Waco where he graced my students with two days of awesome insights and lessons! My students are still texting me hours after he left about the wonderful time they had during his visit!

    Thank you SiGong Savage, Thank You SiBak Dar and all my Shadowhand Brothers…your humility and generosity are inspiring, and your example is empowering!

    -Steve

  11. June 29th, 2015 at 01:58 | #11

    I just say thank you again to my Shadowhand family for all the wonderful support in my martial journey!

    I was in an accident on the way home, I am ok, but note it because I would have posted a reply sooner!

    As usual the amount of information shared was overwhelmingly generous! SiGong Doc Savage was a well

    of valuable years of experience availing himself to our every questions! I learned so much more about the forms

    while there and his insights are awesome!

    I would also like to say thank you to my SiBak in Shadowhand Wing Chun, SiFu Dar Savage for his recent visit to Waco where he graced my students with two days of awesome insights and lessons! My students are still texting me hours after he left about the wonderful time they had during his visit!

    Thank you SiGong Savage, Thank You SiBak Dar and all my Shadowhand Brothers…your humility and generosity are inspiring, and your example is empowering!

    -Steve

  12. Jay
    June 28th, 2015 at 21:55 | #12

    I want to formally apologize to my SiGong and his Pai for the part I played in the personal attacks that went on while I was with Dustan Carroll. I am a very loyal person and sometimes that loyalty blinds me to things that goes against my better judgement. There was times I wrote things on my own accord. But there was also times he wrote things and I just posted it under my name. I honestly just thought I was doing an honorable thing by defending my SiFu. Dustan is a master manipulator and Im more disappointed in myself than anything for not seeing it sooner. I confronted him with a whole list of things I know he has done and yet he still tries to pass the buck and wont acknowledge his wrong doings. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I was wrong, Dustan was wrong. I made my bed and I’ll gladly lay in it. I dont expect anyone to accept my apology but I know in my heart its the right thing to do. So again Im sorry! Best wishes to you and yours SiGong Savage.

  13. SiFu Doc Savage
    June 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 | #13

    Thanks again to everyone who attended this seminar!!! Special thanks to SiFu Beck and his Father for extending their hospitality and the great food Bill and Bobby provided for us.
    These seminars are intended to advance the student to a level above the one they came with. The level they achieve depends on:
    1. Not to let your preconceived ideas stop you from moving beyond this sticking point.
    2. Ask copious questions of the facilitator, regardless of whether you think the question is “stupid” or not. You are here to “learn”. I am here to “teach”. I will hold nothing back. Or teach you 1’ off, ever!!!
    3. Practice your forms at your level of training. Ask Me for corrections and the ways to improve on them.
    4. Turn your horse 100 x’s a day. Lon Sao Di-Gon Sao and Quan Sao!
    5. Practice moving around the sticks 30 minutes a day. Footwork is the key to “Shadowhand” Kung Fu.
    6. The seminar doesn’t stop at 4 pm. We just take a break for food and rest. We go on till we get sleepy!
    So, now you know what to do for and at the next seminar.
    Good Luck!!!
    See you then, SiFu Doc Savage

  14. June 20th, 2015 at 21:01 | #14

    Another amazing seminar! Thank you again SiGung.. Doc, for sharing your knowledge and all the many needed corrections I received. I especially enjoyed the “Ask me anything” moments, regarding ‘any’ movement in any of the forms. They were awesome to be part of and watch, as we saw Doc begin at one point, and it often lead to a variety of applications. I’ll need more pages for all the extras that were covered in Chum Kil [many notes: lol]
    Getting tweaked in 4 punch 102 as well as tweaking our structure and pressure in the Donchi sau drills were again, awesome.. as we then incorporated that knowledge into our rolling and lop drill.. into the lockout. NICE! O, and thanks again for that manual, Doc.
    I appreciate the tips on the Wooden man, Doc, and I’m still transferring notes on those facial pressure points and the one on the leg, for the sneaky kick.
    A big ‘Thank You’ to Bobby for a place to train and his folks for rustling up the chow. Thanks to all the ‘gang’, for helping the ‘old guy’ get it down, [cant wait to see you when you’re on Medicare lol] and meeting a couple more of my SiHing’s.
    A special thanks to the guy in the corset, for his guidance and supplemental written material. Hope you’re up and running at the next one, SiFu.
    You move, I move; You change, I change; You stop, I keep going. – SHADOWHAND – Hell yea!

  15. June 19th, 2015 at 16:00 | #15

    Finally… just finding the time to sit down to write a few words lol.

    I 2nd what everyone else has stated already, many many thanks to SiGong Doc, Sifu Bobby and his dad for the food and hospitality, E, as always, training with you is an adventure :), Adam was great seeing you again, Sifu Justin, best wishes on the rib may your days be pain free in the coming weeks.
    Venturing down the rabbit hole with you guys is, as always, a mind blowing experience. A very valuable one. Knowledge that cannot be gained anywhere else.
    Now, I have a idea of what questions to ask–finally. (I’m old and slow, but I’m getting there 🙂
    Persevere, train, persevere more, train more.
    Looking forward to the next one, definitely 🙂

  16. Mark
    June 19th, 2015 at 04:05 | #16

    Thank you Sigung Doc for allowing me to participate in this past seminar! It was probably the most amazing thing I’ve ever experienced. It was nothing like I expected but everything I hoped It would be. I will retained what I’ve learned and practice diligently and prove that the knowledge bestowed upon me will not be in vain. My motivation has skyrocketed! Your teachings have really inspired me. After meeting your disciples and the rest of the Shadowhand family I know this is where I want to be, this is what I want to do! I look forward to your next seminar! Thank you again Sigung Doc for the opportunity to participate and for the wisdom you’ve opened my mind to! Thank you Sifu Jay for extending Sigung Docs invitation to me and for your training! Thank you Enero for the subtleties and nuances and insight, Sifu Bobby for the one on one your technique is truly magnificent,Sifu Ed,Sifu Adam,Sifu Steve,Sifu Justin all the disciples and Sifus. Y’all are a terrific group of guys and I can comfortably wear my colors with pride! Thanks again for Sigung Doc this has truly been a life changing event for me!

  17. DOUG
    June 18th, 2015 at 14:49 | #17

    Ask questions when SiFu asked do you have any Questions, and let SiFu answer you ! Wow what a great idea ! DUH…

  18. SiFu Doc Savage
    June 18th, 2015 at 11:21 | #18

    It has come to me why no student has any questions. They are getting their questions answered by others at the seminars/class.
    While this is good and helpful having questions answered by someone else it really should be done by the person teaching the seminar/class! So, please refer any and all questions to me. This will help eliminate any misunderstandings in the material being covered in the seminars/class. To the matter of instruction of forms and any other “Shadowhand” training, please direct these questions to SiGong/SiFu for further instruction/corrections. I hope this clears things up. Have any questions regarding this please ask me. This is why you attend and pay for “MY” instructions. Thank you for your help in this matter!
    SiFu Savage

  19. Aiden Savage
    June 17th, 2015 at 18:14 | #19

    Seminar was great. Direct all questions to Sifu Doc Savage, he’s the one with the goods.

  20. todd
    June 17th, 2015 at 04:21 | #20

    Thanks Doc for the overload. I haven’t gotten past going over the forms etc. since Sunday . Daily forms with a few drills thrown in are the best right after a seminar. Thanks to everyone for the great lessons and great pounding. Looking forward to the next one.

  21. June 17th, 2015 at 04:15 | #21

    Thank you SiGong Doc for a great Seminar! It is absolutely amazing to observe and learn as you harmonize any selected movement to it’s place in the forms! My understanding grows exponentially in just a very short time at each seminar I attend!

    Thank you to Bobby for the hospitality to both me and Spanky!

    To Justin, Enero, Ed, Jay, Aiden and all my Shadowhand Brothers, it was awesome seeing everyone again, and meeting new faces as well!

    I had a really awesome time and look forward to the next time!

  22. Jeremy
    June 15th, 2015 at 21:10 | #22

    Where do I start? First, thank you SiGong Doc Savage for overloading my feeble mind with just how much there is behind every single movement we make in the forms and drills and how they ALL connect. It is humbling and eye-opening to see just how much I have yet to learn. Knowing that is one thing, experiencing it firsthand is so much more meaningful. I am grateful for your generous sharing of the art of Wing Chun!

    Next, thank you to Bobby and his family for their generous hospitality. The food and lodging was excellent and made the trip possible for many of us. I also appreciate the headache you gave me as a bonus!

    Finally, it was great to meet all of my other brothers who were there. I got so much training with everyone. Thank you all for your patience, training and corrections. You guys are the best!

    I am certainly looking forward to the next time I can make the trip!

  23. Adam
    June 15th, 2015 at 19:58 | #23

    Thank you SiFu Doc for another great seminar. Very informative. I have much to learn and work on. Enjoyed working out with everyone and meeting some new folks. Ez E always a pleasure. Ed, your welcome! Lol! Justin, I hope you have a speedy recovery. Big thanks to Bobby and his parents for the great hospitality. Looking forwarded to the next one.

  24. June 15th, 2015 at 16:43 | #24

    Thank you again, SiGong, for yet another excellent seminar! While I’m always glad to learn directly from you, I was especially happy that others from Memphis got to see you, hear some funny stories, and receive corrections in their Wing Chun. I can’t say “Thank you” enough for accepting us and freely teaching the Art that was taught to you. It’s one thing to hear a man *tell* you the correct application, but you go much further and *show* the “what, why, and how” of everything we do. You always embody the statement, “The proof is in the punch.” Again, thank you.

    Bobby, thank you for the lodging and vittles. I always appreciate your input and pointers in helping us. Justin (aka McRib lol), even though we didn’t get to work together, it was a pleasure seeing you and getting your input and help. Eazy E-nero, you the training, dialogue, and advice are more than appreciated. You’re gonna have to let me see your notes some time! Todd, Scott, Phil, Capt. J (good job with your new student!), it was a blast! Adam, thank you for the headaches! Lol Steve, my Wilted Rose brother. I was so happy to see you and train with you! I’m grateful that we are on this path. Others can say whatever they want, but you and I know the TRUTH.

    Again, thanks, SiGong. I have much to study, search, and test.

  25. JC
    June 15th, 2015 at 10:36 | #25

    Thanks to Doc for another great weekend of training. Always enlightening. Always so much more to learn. Quite humbling.
    Good to see the Shadowhand crew from all corners come out for some solid brain expanding wing chun. As always, thanks to Bobby for the use of his home, and thanks to Bill for the burgers.
    See you at the next one.

  26. EZ E(nero)
    June 14th, 2015 at 23:58 | #26

    SiFu Doc Savage, thanks again for another top quality seminar! Always informative, challenging, frustrating, & above all fun. Getting into the finer points of Shadowhand WC motivates me to turn the microscope on & take a deeper look at the forms. Something that you always say to do in the first place. I am shown new things at every seminar & this one was no exception. On this journey up the WC mountain people & things help you along the way; to that end “Thanks” everybody that came to train. Training with you was great & even the new guys brought some heat – great questions & energy. Good to see everybody, the usual offenders, the new faces (Mark & Jeremy) & my old classmate Adam (glad you could make it.) As most of the attendees are getting after it on the highways, drive safe & see you in a while.
    Lay off the McRibs!

  27. June 7th, 2015 at 23:06 | #27

    @SiFu Doc Savage
    Please reserve a copy for me. One of my students was going to make the trip, told me Thursday Night, but then was injured at work Friday.
    He’s okay, but going to be down for a couple weeks. He told me today he still wants a pair of the plastic training Butterfly swords and a copy of the Power Speed and Flexibility manual and will get the money before I leave for Florida.
    -Steve
    @SiFu Doc Savage

  28. SiFu Doc Savage
    June 6th, 2015 at 15:59 | #28

    Reserve your Power-Speed and Flexibility Manuals today!!!

  29. JC
    June 2nd, 2015 at 23:15 | #29

    Attack the attack

  30. SiFu Doc Savage
    May 31st, 2015 at 11:38 | #30

    FUD!!!
    copyright 2015

  31. SiFu Doc Savage
    May 31st, 2015 at 11:37 | #31

    SHADOWHAND WING CHUN KUNG FU
    SiFu Doc Savage
    Presents
    June 13-14, 2015
    Seminar: Holt, Fl.
    OPEN TO ALL interested in advancing their knowledge.
    Topics to be covered
    Saturday 13: Sil Lum Tao – Chum Kill and Bil Jee and why it is taught the way I teach it.
    Breaking out selected moves from each form and demonstrating the practical application of the techniques.
    Drills to improve elbow pressure which is important for you to:
    “UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURE BEING APPLIED TO YOU BY YOUR OPPONENT”
    SiFu Doc Savage copyright 1990-2015
    Showing selected techniques and how to understand them in accord with the Wing Chun Rules that govern our system of martial arts
    Answering any and all questions you might have about what “SHADOWHAND WING CHUN KUNG FU”
    Philosophy – Techniques – Woodenman and Weapons
    Sunday 14: Look Dim Boon Quan and Bott Jum Do Training and how the moves from the forms are relevant to how we fight
    Putting it all together.
    Cost: $150.00 per day
    Be there early and learn many things off the books.
    SiFu Doc Savage copyright 1990-2015
    No part of this seminar is to be taught without written permission from
    SiFu Doc Savage copyright 1990-2015
    “All material contained in seminars is copyrighted and cannot be used without expressed permission from SiFu Doc Savage.

  32. EZ E(nero)
    May 20th, 2015 at 19:22 | #32

    “I don’t care what your style is, you [should] practice it EVERY day.” Doc

  33. SiFu Doc Savage
    May 11th, 2015 at 20:12 | #33

    Attention all! As of May 11th, 2015 anyone associating with or teaching Shadowhand Wing Chun Kung Fu to any White Rose students, past or present, or any of their affiliates will be dismissed from SHADOWHAND Wing Chun Kung Fu. No exceptions! No excuses! Anyone has a problem with this statement please resign.

  34. SiFu Doc Savage
    May 8th, 2015 at 11:30 | #34

    Practice the forms daily! MESSAGE!!!

  35. EZ E(nero)
    May 8th, 2015 at 10:59 | #35

    @Capt J – Cudos to the kiddos! Keep up the good work!

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